Nature Bats Last Nature Bats Last is the most radical show on the radio. Hosts Kevin Hester and Guy McPherson get to the root of relevant issues facing society.

September 3, 2020  

Guy McPherson and guest host Pauline Schneider were joined by Dr. Morris Berman, renowned educator who has taught at several universities in Europe and North America. We discussed Berman’s ongoing work as an innovative cultural historian and social critic. 

August 5, 2020  

Kevin and Guy were joined by Dr. Sid Smith, Ph.D. in mathematics. Smith is known for his presentations from March, 2018 and March, 2019, respectively: “Humanity: The Final Chapter” (, and “How to Enjoy the End of the World” (

July 10, 2020  
Kevin and Guy were joined by filmmaker Jeff Gibbs, known for his 2019 film, Planet of the Humans. We discussed Gibbs' work and the resistance it has met.
June 3, 2020  

Kevin and Guy were joined in this pre-recorded show by Professor Corey Bradshaw of Flinders University. We discussed Professor Bradshaw’s renowned work on the consequences of rapid environmental change.

May 6, 2020  

Show description: Kevin and Guy were joined by Kirkpatrick Sale, founder of the Middlebury Institute of International Studies and author of more than a dozen books. We discussed Kirkpatrick’s longtime and recent work on the topic of localization in light of the near-term collapse of the industrial economy.

April 15, 2020  

Today we are delighted to have Paul Gunter on the show. Paul Gunter is a co-founder of the Clamshell Alliance anti-nuclear group. He has been arrested at Seabrook Station Nuclear Power Plant for non-violent civil disobedience on several occasions. An energy policy analyst and activist, he has been a vocal critic of nuclear power for more than 30 years. Gunter worked as the Director of the Reactor Watchdog Project for Nuclear Information and Resource Service for almost 20 years. In 2007, Gunter joined Beyond Nuclear as their nuclear reactor specialist.

March 4, 2020  

Kevin and Guy were joined by George Taskraklides. We discussed George’s recent work at, including the collapse of industrial civilization.

February 5, 2020  
Kevin and Guy were joined by renowned biologist Paul Ehrlich, Bing Professor of Population Studies at Stanford University. We discussed recent developments in the ongoing Mass Extinction Event, including co-extinctions and the potential reduction of the aerosol masking effect as the worldwide insurance industry teeters on the brink.
January 8, 2020  

Kevin and Guy were joined by Stephen Jenkinson, a guest on the show in September, 2015. Today’s discussion included the topics of Jenkinson’s personal history and his outlook on despair.

December 4, 2019  
Kevin and Guy were joined by activist Mimi German, a guest on the show in June, 2015, February, 2017, and April, 2019. Our latest discussion included Mimi’s personal history, from her anti-nuclear work to her current efforts as a poet and an advocate for the houseless.

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